naughty boy in a lot of his books and enlightens us on how that has come about. His work may not be classed as romance, but definitely falls into WOW!
Some
of your work is downright erotic and crosses boundaries at times into
kinky. Romance, whether erotic not, has certain taboos (of which some of
your books at least dance around) that an author will be told to delete.
Have you ever had to argue with an editor to keep something in a story they
thought too controversial?
It's important to note that much of my early work
was in the field of Midcentury Erotica, novels for publishers like Nightstand
and Midwood and Beacon under pen names like Sheldon Lord and Andrew Shaw. My
contemporaries and I were essentially the creators of the genre in 1958-9, and
our books were hugely successful for our publishers. (Though less so for us;
Nightstand's publisher bought himself a Duesenberg around the same time that I
bought a Nash Rambler.)
Our aim was to make the books as erotic as possible
without getting the publisher sent to jail, and we mostly succeeded. We had to
do this without using any of the words then deemed obscene, and none of my work
in this genre contained the words shit or tits, for example, let alone anything
stronger. Descriptions were imprecise, sometimes metaphorical—and yet the
reader knew what was going, and evidently got off on it, because sales kept
increasing.
For the longest time I wanted to forget those early
books, and refused to sign them, etc. Well, time calms troubled waters, and who
can stand up to the tag team of Ego and Avarice? I've republished many of those
early works—Gigolo
Johnny Wells and Campus
Tramp, by Andrew Shaw, and Sheldon Lord's Candy, Carla, and A Strange Kind of Love—as
eBooks, and Hard Case Crime has resuscitated a few others. They've even emerged
as Audible.com audiobooks, and who ever dreamed that would happen?
Midcentury erotica. It was a great training ground,
because it was such a forgiving medium. As long as every chapter contained a
sex scene, the publisher was happy.
But it had a curiously inhibiting effect in my other
writing. I found myself becoming quite circumspect in writing about sexual
incidents in my crime novels, work that I took more seriously and published
under my own name.
That was to change. A turning point came in
the late 1960s. After having been several years away from the Midwood and
Nightstand days, I wrote three erotic novels for Berkley under the name Jill
Emerson. (It was a name I'd employed a few years earlier for two lesbian novels
for Midwood.) By then there'd been a shift in mainstream literature, and
writers as reputable as John Updike were going much farther than we had for
Nightstand and Midwood.
The Berkley Jill Emersons came my way at a time when
I found the whole premise of the novel artificial, and thus I experimented with
form; Thirty
and A Madwoman's Diary
are purported diaries, while Threesome is a tour de force, with the three characters
inspired to write a collaborative novel based upon their own troilistic
relationship. The sexual content is far more realistic, in all senses of the
word, than in my earlier work.
I next wrote an epistolary novel composed of letters
to and from one Laurence Clarke, and gave it to friends to read, and they all
thought iwas hysterically funny. I was moved to publish it not as a Berkley
paperback but as a Bernard Geis hardcover, with the title Ronald Rabbit is a Dirty Old
Man.
But none of this really answers your question, does
it?Let's fast-forward a few years. I can think of one occasion when an editor at William Morrow objected to an incident in one of the Matthew Scudder books. (I think it was the twelfth book in the series, A Long Line of Dead Men.) Matt and Elaine pay a social visit to a swing club; I call it Marilyn's Chamber, but it's the equivalent of Trapeze or Plato's Retreat. Their participation is largely as observers, although we learn from their conversation afterward that Elaine gets it on with another woman.
The editor couldn't believe that a nice girl like Elaine would do that, or that Matt and Elaine would go to a nasty joint like that in the first place. I said I figured I knew what my characters would or wouldn't do, and never even considered changing it.
Another editor was aghast when the preceding book, The Devil Knows You're Dead, saw Matt have an affair with a client. He and Elaine had a wonderful relationship, she protested, so why on earth would he cheat on her? "Men are like that," I told her. "Get used to it."
More recently, I found myself a series of short stories about a lovely and personable young woman giving to picking up guys, enjoying herself in bed with them, and getting even more pleasure out of killing them. The stories evolved into a novel as I discovered more and more about my heroine, and I decided to publish it with an open pen name: "by Lawrence Block writing as Jill Emerson." Charles Ardai of Hard Case Crime was my editor and publisher, and it was a joy to work with him because he and I saw the book the same way.
Getting Off broke every taboo there every was, and was the most fun I've ever had writing. And my editor never suggested I tone anything down. In fact there's one scene in which Kit kills a man after having tied him up and, by means of a penile ligature, created what she thinks of as a Roach Motel—the blood can get in but it can't get out. Then, while the corpse is on his way to room temperature, she calls a girlfriend with whom she's been having a long-distance phone sex relationship.
"You know," Charles said, "while she's talking, well, I hesitate to suggest this, but the dead guy's still erect, so if she wanted—"
I never take suggestions, but how could I pass this up just because I'd failed to think of it myself? "Brilliant," I said, and rewrote the scene accordingly.
Getting Off is available in hardcover and trade paperback, I should mention, and as an eBook and audiobook as well. And just this month it struck me that many of the book's episodes, which started life as individual short stories, ought to be eVailable in that form; I've accordingly published "If You Can't Stand the Heat," "Rude Awakening," "You Can Call Me Lucky," and the novelette "Clean Slate," as eBooks.
Given how erotic some your work is, how much of your personal life do you incorporate in your writing?
Hmmm. Well, a good deal of my personal fantasy life, to be sure. When I started out in the late 1950s, all of my characters were vastly more experienced sexually than was I.
I wrote a whole series of sex-fact books in the 1970s as John Warren Wells, in the general form of collected case histories. Much of this was fabricated—fiction in the guise of non-fiction—but much of it was not, as the books led to correspondence which led to sections of subsequent books. And sometimes the correspondence led to meetings, and sometimes those meetings were, um, productive.
On the advice of counsel, I'm going to leave it at that...
John Warren Wells: http://tinyurl.com/dymumr
The Devil Knows You're Dead: http://tinyurl.com/d4k4l6b
A Long Line of Dead Men: http://tinyurl.com/codf375
Ronald Rabbit: http://tinyurl.com/d45ezaf
Madwoman's Diary: http://tinyurl.com/cbed72k
Threesome: http://tinyurl.com/c5rj9lz
Thirty: http://tinyurl.com/cv28rkb
A Strange Kind of Love: http://tinyurl.com/cxux54s
Carla: http://tinyurl.com/c5rwyu4
Candy: http://tinyurl.com/camqxds
Campus Tramp: http://tinyurl.com/d7dxlur
Gigolo Johnny Wells: http://tinyurl.com/cdammez
Getting Off: http://tinyurl.com/ah3nyg5
You Can Call Me Lucky: http://tinyurl.com/cohrcvk
If You Can't Stand the Heat: http://tinyurl.com/buhg9em
Rude Awakening: http://tinyurl.com/c5vhug8
Clean Slate: http://tinyurl.com/ce9snpx
5 comments:
Great post! I've read many of Lawrence Block's novel and loved them all especially A Dance At The Slaughterhouse. I had no idea Mr. Block wrote under so many pseudonyms.
Neither did I Sloane. A man of many personalities!!!...LOL
Love the post! Thanks so much for sharing RMP!
Enlightens, indeed! Wow! Thanks Lawrence and Lizzie for the great interview.
I had no idea that Block wrote erotic books. I've read many of his Matthew Scudder books but don't remember the scene where he and Elaine visit the club....I'm seriously considering reading it now.
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